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People violently arrested for dancing at Jefferson Monument – Lost Republic
Best quote in video: “What if you’re out of time when you’re making movements with your body? Is that still dancing?” –some dude behind the camera
I gotta say though, I don’t know if dancing around monuments is such a good idea. Can you imagine a mosh pit gone awry? Seems like things could get out of hand pretty quickly and potentially deface the monument. I know this isn’t the basis of the law, and I do think the U.S. Court of Appeals’ argument that dancing is prohibited “because it stands out as a type of performance, creating its own center of attention and distracting from the atmosphere of solemn commemoration” is BS — I’m not sure it’s such a bad restriction for other reasons…
I saw some of the videos of this episode. I saw them when
I was looking at the previous posting of the Arizona event.
The day of the Arizona event I received an email expressing
concern over police state tactics and equipment available to
local police from Federal grants. It needs to be understood
that there is difference between police and high powered
SWAT teams.
I recall many law suits charging civil rights violations against
police originating from racial issues. What is keeping the Fed’s
from filing civil rights violations in cases like Arizona.
Orders not to file such suits must be coming from the top. This
resembles the Communist methods of the early 1900’s in Russia.
Yuri M has illustrated the methodology. And I get emails from
those in USA who lived in China under Mao.
Ed K – you’re right that local/state police tactics can be a problem (I live in Oakland, CA and I’m sure my neighbors have the stories to prove it), which yes, is the point of the video. The use of force and kneeing people to the ground in this instance seemed unnecessary. But there is the underlying question of whether what the “dancers” were doing was simply meant to provoke. That doesn’t make unnecessary force OK, but it shouldn’t be glossed over either. The people dancing near the monument have some accountability too, since the current law states that what they were doing is illegal.
But really – how else could the police have physically handled this situation? Herd the dancers away from the monument? There weren’t enough officers to do so…
Best quote in video: “What if you’re out of time when you’re making movements with your body? Is that still dancing?” –some dude behind the camera
I gotta say though, I don’t know if dancing around monuments is such a good idea. Can you imagine a mosh pit gone awry? Seems like things could get out of hand pretty quickly and potentially deface the monument. I know this isn’t the basis of the law, and I do think the U.S. Court of Appeals’ argument that dancing is prohibited “because it stands out as a type of performance, creating its own center of attention and distracting from the atmosphere of solemn commemoration” is BS — I’m not sure it’s such a bad restriction for other reasons…
I saw some of the videos of this episode. I saw them when
I was looking at the previous posting of the Arizona event.
The day of the Arizona event I received an email expressing
concern over police state tactics and equipment available to
local police from Federal grants. It needs to be understood
that there is difference between police and high powered
SWAT teams.
I recall many law suits charging civil rights violations against
police originating from racial issues. What is keeping the Fed’s
from filing civil rights violations in cases like Arizona.
Orders not to file such suits must be coming from the top. This
resembles the Communist methods of the early 1900’s in Russia.
Yuri M has illustrated the methodology. And I get emails from
those in USA who lived in China under Mao.
We have a problem.
Ed K
Ed K – you’re right that local/state police tactics can be a problem (I live in Oakland, CA and I’m sure my neighbors have the stories to prove it), which yes, is the point of the video. The use of force and kneeing people to the ground in this instance seemed unnecessary. But there is the underlying question of whether what the “dancers” were doing was simply meant to provoke. That doesn’t make unnecessary force OK, but it shouldn’t be glossed over either. The people dancing near the monument have some accountability too, since the current law states that what they were doing is illegal.
But really – how else could the police have physically handled this situation? Herd the dancers away from the monument? There weren’t enough officers to do so…